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The Daily Gambit #5: The Grob (The "I'm Not Even Sorry" Opening)

I also remember losing to grob online before. I did some studying on the gambit and when I got hit with it OTB (in a rapid game) I messed up my move order, played 1...e5, so I just played chess with a big centre and won xd. we got a reverse semi-benoni but white has h3-g4 instead of g3

I also remember losing to grob online before. I did some studying on the gambit and when I got hit with it OTB (in a rapid game) I messed up my move order, played 1...e5, so I just played chess with a big centre and won xd. we got a reverse semi-benoni but white has h3-g4 instead of g3

you realy have to analyze the position after 1.g4 d5 2.Bg2 Bxg4 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxb7 Nd7 5.Bxa8 Qxa8. its very fun to play as black, and white is defenetly loosing.

you realy have to analyze the position after 1.g4 d5 2.Bg2 Bxg4 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxb7 Nd7 5.Bxa8 Qxa8. its very fun to play as black, and white is defenetly loosing.

@CkickyCheck said in #3:

I also remember losing to grob online before. I did some studying on the gambit and when I got hit with it OTB (in a rapid game) I messed up my move order, played 1...e5, so I just played chess with a big centre and won xd. we got a reverse semi-benoni but white has h3-g4 instead of g3

That’s a nice experience! Well done :)

@CkickyCheck said in #3: > I also remember losing to grob online before. I did some studying on the gambit and when I got hit with it OTB (in a rapid game) I messed up my move order, played 1...e5, so I just played chess with a big centre and won xd. we got a reverse semi-benoni but white has h3-g4 instead of g3 That’s a nice experience! Well done :)

@mySecretPrep said in #4:

you realy have to analyze the position after 1.g4 d5 2.Bg2 Bxg4 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxb7 Nd7 5.Bxa8 Qxa8. its very fun to play as black, and white is defenetly loosing.

Definitely! But is white really losing? Unless the white player is a master of tricks, then maybe he/she might blunder

@mySecretPrep said in #4: > you realy have to analyze the position after 1.g4 d5 2.Bg2 Bxg4 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxb7 Nd7 5.Bxa8 Qxa8. its very fun to play as black, and white is defenetly loosing. Definitely! But is white really losing? Unless the white player is a master of tricks, then maybe he/she might blunder

@francisludwigii said in #7:

you realy have to analyze the position after 1.g4 d5 2.Bg2 Bxg4 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxb7 Nd7 5.Bxa8 Qxa8. its very fun to play as black, and white is defenetly loosing.

Definitely! But is white really losing? Unless the white player is a master of tricks, then maybe he/she might blunder

When I face a tricky opening, I then use the opponent's games database to find best responses.
In this position, all of the Grob players whom I've faced played 6. f3 (83% played in the Lichess database).
Not a single time did any of them get the correct response 6... e5 (8% played in the Lichess database).
Then 7. d4 exd4 8. Qxd4 Ngf6 and the eval is -0.7, and the best computer move 9. Qxc4 has a 100% win rate for Black in the Lichess database.

I mean... the swagger of this type of gambits obviously has it limits.

@francisludwigii said in #7: > > you realy have to analyze the position after 1.g4 d5 2.Bg2 Bxg4 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxb7 Nd7 5.Bxa8 Qxa8. its very fun to play as black, and white is defenetly loosing. > > Definitely! But is white really losing? Unless the white player is a master of tricks, then maybe he/she might blunder When I face a tricky opening, I then use the opponent's games database to find best responses. In this position, all of the Grob players whom I've faced played 6. f3 (83% played in the Lichess database). Not a single time did any of them get the correct response 6... e5 (8% played in the Lichess database). Then 7. d4 exd4 8. Qxd4 Ngf6 and the eval is -0.7, and the best computer move 9. Qxc4 has a 100% win rate for Black in the Lichess database. I mean... the swagger of this type of gambits obviously has it limits.

@CtrNms said in #8:

you realy have to analyze the position after 1.g4 d5 2.Bg2 Bxg4 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxb7 Nd7 5.Bxa8 Qxa8. its very fun to play as black, and white is defenetly loosing.

Definitely! But is white really losing? Unless the white player is a master of tricks, then maybe he/she might blunder

When I face a tricky opening, I then use the opponent's games database to find best responses.
In this position, all of the Grob players whom I've faced played 6. f3 (83% played in the Lichess database).
Not a single time did any of them get the correct response 6... e5 (8% played in the Lichess database).
Then 7. d4 exd4 8. Qxd4 Ngf6 and the eval is -0.7, and the best computer move 9. Qxc4 has a 100% win rate for Black in the Lichess database.

I mean... the swagger of this type of gambits obviously has it limits.

Fr actually @CtrNms cuz i wanted to find a game that looks good to be represented as the model game, but I had to play the grob in the green site (yk what i mean) and my opponent responded with 1...g5? which kind of confused me :/ he just played the double grob, and now i know how scarce people actually play the right move which is 1...d4

@CtrNms said in #8: > > > you realy have to analyze the position after 1.g4 d5 2.Bg2 Bxg4 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxb7 Nd7 5.Bxa8 Qxa8. its very fun to play as black, and white is defenetly loosing. > > > > Definitely! But is white really losing? Unless the white player is a master of tricks, then maybe he/she might blunder > > When I face a tricky opening, I then use the opponent's games database to find best responses. > In this position, all of the Grob players whom I've faced played 6. f3 (83% played in the Lichess database). > Not a single time did any of them get the correct response 6... e5 (8% played in the Lichess database). > Then 7. d4 exd4 8. Qxd4 Ngf6 and the eval is -0.7, and the best computer move 9. Qxc4 has a 100% win rate for Black in the Lichess database. > > I mean... the swagger of this type of gambits obviously has it limits. Fr actually @CtrNms cuz i wanted to find a game that looks good to be represented as the model game, but I had to play the grob in the green site (yk what i mean) and my opponent responded with 1...g5? which kind of confused me :/ he just played the double grob, and now i know how scarce people actually play the right move which is 1...d4

Here is a correspondence game

https://lichess.org/9qWOVKzC#7

And here are games by the late IM Basman from the British Championship, classical time control
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1026303
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1026309

Here is a correspondence game https://lichess.org/9qWOVKzC#7 And here are games by the late IM Basman from the British Championship, classical time control https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1026303 https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1026309