@pretzelattack1 said in #33:
I think the Russian parts of Ukraine want to avoid being incinerated by the neonazis the US has been supporting.
Actually Russia incinerated them already, For instance Bakhmut was russian dominated, but the Russians reduces it to rubble.
If you had followed the war, you'd have noticed Russia completely obliterating the Russian dominated parts.
Not surprisingly, the Ukrainian Russians have not been pleaded with Russia reducing their homes to rubble.
And could you stop the Kremlin propaganda about neonazis?
I think a lot of Ukrainians want peace, and are unhappy with Zelensky's mass censorship and the massive loss of lives in the war,
Good for you, but your fantasies are not very important in the big scheme of things. In the real world, the Ukrainians want to fight.
So I've told you you can easily veryfy this, but you refuse. Instead you get your information from "I think" lol.
which people like you foolishly think Ukraine is winning
The Ukrainians think they will win.
but are afraid of being arrested or harassed.
Stop making things up. You life in the fantasy world where you just invent whatever you want to believe.
I think the US installed the very people who wanted a war with Russia, and the rest of the country, which wanted peace, had no say in the matter. they didn't want to provoke a Russian invasion, and millions of them have left the country.
Kremlin propaganda. Ukraine has the right to trade with EU and apply to join. Euromaidan was a public uprising against the Russian friendly president, that betrayed them and now lives in Russia.
Only because you read Kremlin propaganda do you think Ukraine has no right to seek their own path.
the Ukrainians dont have sovereignty, if they did they would have been allowed to negotiate and implement the Minsk accords. if they had sovereignty Zelensky would have been allowed to implement the peace platform he was elected on.
The Minsk discussion failed because Russia annexed Luhansk and Donetsk.
And also because Russia essentually wants to dictate Ukraine's path for the futiure.
when Ukraine finally falls people like you will forget about it like you've forgotten Iraq and Afghanistan and start mindlessly cheering for the next proxy war, possibly in Taiwan, possibly in Africa where the US is losing influence.
Oh, now you went back to not understanding the Ukrainians don't want to get invaded and it's just USA like egging them on :)
I think many Americans are simply unable to understand the outside world, because you think only Americans have agency. Like you cannot understand decisions are made outside of USA.
@pretzelattack1 said in #33:
> I think the Russian parts of Ukraine want to avoid being incinerated by the neonazis the US has been supporting.
Actually Russia incinerated them already, For instance Bakhmut was russian dominated, but the Russians reduces it to rubble.
If you had followed the war, you'd have noticed Russia completely obliterating the Russian dominated parts.
Not surprisingly, the Ukrainian Russians have not been pleaded with Russia reducing their homes to rubble.
And could you stop the Kremlin propaganda about neonazis?
>I think a lot of Ukrainians want peace, and are unhappy with Zelensky's mass censorship and the massive loss of lives in the war,
Good for you, but your fantasies are not very important in the big scheme of things. In the real world, the Ukrainians want to fight.
So I've told you you can easily veryfy this, but you refuse. Instead you get your information from "I think" lol.
>which people like you foolishly think Ukraine is winning
The Ukrainians think they will win.
>but are afraid of being arrested or harassed.
Stop making things up. You life in the fantasy world where you just invent whatever you want to believe.
>I think the US installed the very people who wanted a war with Russia, and the rest of the country, which wanted peace, had no say in the matter. they didn't want to provoke a Russian invasion, and millions of them have left the country.
Kremlin propaganda. Ukraine has the right to trade with EU and apply to join. Euromaidan was a public uprising against the Russian friendly president, that betrayed them and now lives in Russia.
Only because you read Kremlin propaganda do you think Ukraine has no right to seek their own path.
>the Ukrainians dont have sovereignty, if they did they would have been allowed to negotiate and implement the Minsk accords. if they had sovereignty Zelensky would have been allowed to implement the peace platform he was elected on.
The Minsk discussion failed because Russia annexed Luhansk and Donetsk.
And also because Russia essentually wants to dictate Ukraine's path for the futiure.
>when Ukraine finally falls people like you will forget about it like you've forgotten Iraq and Afghanistan and start mindlessly cheering for the next proxy war, possibly in Taiwan, possibly in Africa where the US is losing influence.
Oh, now you went back to not understanding the Ukrainians don't want to get invaded and it's just USA like egging them on :)
I think many Americans are simply unable to understand the outside world, because you think only Americans have agency. Like you cannot understand decisions are made outside of USA.