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Why You Shouldn't Always Trust The Engine

I only disagree with the part about losing positions. In my experience the best way to save a game is to make the best moves. You can learn a lot with the way engines save lost games. Even if you are down a piece, if you can double our win pawns, exchanging queens, for example, can be the best way to draw. But, of course, you need to have a good endgame technique.

I only disagree with the part about losing positions. In my experience the best way to save a game is to make the best moves. You can learn a lot with the way engines save lost games. Even if you are down a piece, if you can double our win pawns, exchanging queens, for example, can be the best way to draw. But, of course, you need to have a good endgame technique.

@Peristilo said in #31:

I only disagree with the part about losing positions. In my experience the best way to save a game is to make the best moves. You can learn a lot with the way engines save lost games. Even if you are down a piece, if you can double our win pawns, exchanging queens, for example, can be the best way to draw. But, of course, you need to have a good endgame technique.

I disagree with you. Let me explain you.

If you are down a rook, and you can chose between:

Method 1. Trading everything off and trying to go to an endgame where you can hunt some pawns.
Method 2. Try to attack opponents king and checkmate the king, or get perpetual checks.

Engine might say you are -4 at method 1, while at method 2 you are -6.

But if you play 100 games against random opponents while being a rook down, and you chose method 2, your win rate will be much higher than with method 1.

It's actually pretty easy to understand:
If both players keep making the best moves in a losing position, you will certainly lose.
If you complicate the position, you will have a chance to win or draw.

Somehow I also get what you mean, if you are down a piece, and you are facing someone with bad endgame play, you can exchange the queens and try to draw.

@Peristilo said in #31: > I only disagree with the part about losing positions. In my experience the best way to save a game is to make the best moves. You can learn a lot with the way engines save lost games. Even if you are down a piece, if you can double our win pawns, exchanging queens, for example, can be the best way to draw. But, of course, you need to have a good endgame technique. I disagree with you. Let me explain you. If you are down a rook, and you can chose between: Method 1. Trading everything off and trying to go to an endgame where you can hunt some pawns. Method 2. Try to attack opponents king and checkmate the king, or get perpetual checks. Engine might say you are -4 at method 1, while at method 2 you are -6. But if you play 100 games against random opponents while being a rook down, and you chose method 2, your win rate will be much higher than with method 1. It's actually pretty easy to understand: If both players keep making the best moves in a losing position, you will certainly lose. If you complicate the position, you will have a chance to win or draw. Somehow I also get what you mean, if you are down a piece, and you are facing someone with bad endgame play, you can exchange the queens and try to draw.

Engine is made of google and google lies sometimes so in opinion 45/55 55 for lying and 45 for not lying.

Engine is made of google and google lies sometimes so in opinion 45/55 55 for lying and 45 for not lying.

I agree with you. One example is this. 1...d4 d5 (d5 is not actually what stockfish wants you to do, but nvm that) 2...c4 dxc4 3...e4? (This move might look good, but it is a mistake because black can then play c5) Stockfish tricked me on this one, but i soon discovered that i should play e3 instead.

I agree with you. One example is this. 1...d4 d5 (d5 is not actually what stockfish wants you to do, but nvm that) 2...c4 dxc4 3...e4? (This move might look good, but it is a mistake because black can then play c5) Stockfish tricked me on this one, but i soon discovered that i should play e3 instead.

@ChickensGoCluck said in #39:

I agree with you. One example is this. 1...d4 d5 (d5 is not actually what stockfish wants you to do, but nvm that) 2...c4 dxc4 3...e4? (This move might look good, but it is a mistake because black can then play c5) Stockfish tricked me on this one, but i soon discovered that i should play e3 instead.

That's not a good example, 1.d5 is actually one of the best moves and after dxc4, e4 is not a mistake. It's the best move, and better than e3.

@ChickensGoCluck said in #39: > I agree with you. One example is this. 1...d4 d5 (d5 is not actually what stockfish wants you to do, but nvm that) 2...c4 dxc4 3...e4? (This move might look good, but it is a mistake because black can then play c5) Stockfish tricked me on this one, but i soon discovered that i should play e3 instead. That's not a good example, 1.d5 is actually one of the best moves and after dxc4, e4 is not a mistake. It's the best move, and better than e3.